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Resources
Bill adding Japanese and Koreans to Chinese Exclusion Act []

Race prejudice – US – Japanese []

Chinaman – White man – Which? - A Methodist preacher’s sermon [] Explanation of the Chiense Exclusion Act []

Chinese Exclusion Treaty & Chinese Exclusion Act []

Timeline of the Chinese in California from 1850-1925 [] Immigration Facts []

Work Area
Discuss your immigration cartoons here.

Hello everyone! I was looking over the cartoons and the "Where Platforms Agree" caught my attention. I didn't really know anything about it so I did a little research on the following pages about the Chinese Exclusion Act:

[] [] [] [] (not the best source but we can look for a better one if we choose this cartoon)

I thought perhaps we could compare it to "Welcome to All" which was published in the same year. Notice that there are no Asians in this picture because they were not welcome at that time period. I'm just throwing my thoughts out there and am honestly open to any of the cartoons so please let me know what you think. Thanks! ~Cheryll

Thanks for the links, Cheryll. Excellent information to go with these cartoons. I was amazed at one of the facts presented that out of the over 11,000 Chinese in California, only 7 were women! I'm fine with using the two cartoons you suggest. I think we can "Venn Diagram" those two. Gone for now but I'll be baaaccck. Thanks for your hard work finding the links and getting us started. :) - Jana

Cheryll-The links you've found provide some great starting information for your group. Jana-I agree--only 7 women!?!?! Looking forward to seeing your work progress here. If you don't hear from Corey and Kevin in a day or so, you may want to drop them a message in the course. Their emails are also in the roster area if that works better to make initial contact with them. Keep continuing to put your discussion here. Thanks! Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you keep moving forward! Laura

Hi! - I'm Baacck! :) I have added a few links in the Resource section above. As I looked at the cartoons again, I wonder if there would be more to compare in the "As to Japanese Exclusion" and "Welcome to All". ?? What do you think? The links I added address the fact that the US added Japanese and Koreans to their Exclusion Act - virtually extending to all "Asians". One thing I noted on the Welcome to All is that there are the signs for all of the "Free Stuff" and the ones in the front of the line look well-to-do while there are 1-2 "Asians" in the very back of the line. Okay - as I said either is fine with me. :) - Jana

Just wanted to drop in and let you know that I would be looking over the resources and that I appricate the work you have already done. I'll be back tomorrow after I look over it all (to be honest, right now I'm alittle confused). Thanks ~ Corey

Hello! Jana, I agree with your conclusion that it would probably be better to compare the "As to Japanese Exclusion" and "Welcome to All" cartoons. I think I will leave my link where they are since they do not directly correspond to those cartoons. I loved your links! I especially enjoyed reading the sermon! Corey, Welcome! It is overwhelming at first and it honestly took me quite a bit of time to try to figure it all out. I will send an email to Kevin to see how is doing.

Should we start comparing the two documents? Below are my thoughts compared with Jana's previous post. Please add your thoughts! Thanks!~ Cheryll

**__ "As to Japanese Exclusion" __**
1. Some sort of security officer is telling them not to come any further 2. Most people are not of Asian descent, but dressed in Kimonos 3. People are sad and tired and unclean. 4. I noticed that the shoes are not as nice as in the other picture. 5. Look more like refugees than in the other picture 6. One has a gun and the other a bomb - perhaps symbolizing their supposed intent to Destroy America 7. The line goes back as far as you can see indicating hundreds of immigrants 8. Mostly men

__ Both __
1.Contain water in the background

2.-Depict the entrance to the United States

3.-Feature many individuals who plan to enter the United States for a better life

4.-Appeared in the same publication

5. -Women balancing containers of their belongings on their head.

6. Satirical

__** "Welcome to All" **__
1. Signs for "Free Stuff" 2. Those in the front are wealthly europeans. 3. Those in the back are of Asian descent 4. Uncle Sam is welcoming the immigrants. 5. Most people are happy, clean, and well rested 6. You cannot see the face on the Asian person. 7. One of the females is pregnant - perhaps symbolizing new hope 8. Noah's ark - perhaps symbolizing that only those with the European Religious beliefs were truly welcomed 9. Says refugees, but they don't look like refugees. 10. "Ominous" cloud with two figures overlooking people/Ark -with WAR in the cloud/winds with one figure that says "stress" while the other figure looks to be holding him back - which is what the Asian boy in the back appears to be looking towards. ?? 11. Sign with the list of "freedoms" in the US.

Looks like I'm lacking a little in the "Both" section. Feel free to add! ~ Cheryll Feuerstein

Hello everyone,

Sorry I am a little late on contributing to this project. The work everyone has done so far is fantastic.

Here are some more things for BOTH: -Depict the entrance to the United States -Feature many individuals who plan to enter the United States for a better life -Appeared in the same publication

I also think it is interesting to note the years that these cartoons appeared. "Welcome to All" is from 1880, whereas "As to Japanese Exclusion" is from 1913. Is there something we can interpret from this information?

I am willing to put all of this information together on our final Venn diagram for us when we have finished adding our information.

-Kevin

Hello again,

I typed the information we have so far into a Venn diagram and attached it below. Let me know what else we can add.



-Kevin

You may be late to the party, Kevin, but you came in with a Grand Entrance! Thanks for your ideas and starting the Venn Diagram as well as offering to complete it for the group. ;) Great contrasts and comparisons, Cheryl! I added a few to the list.

What I am seeing in the "As to Japanese Exclusion" is that most of these people really are NOT of Asian descent. They are dressed as Asians - Japanese - but do not have the physical characteristics. I'm thinking that with the caption of the cartoon being "Perhaps if they came in kimonos the real undesirables could be kept out" is the cartoonists way of expressing that there are many "undesirables" entering the US, but since they aren't wearing a kimono, they are coming in. The policeman is stopping the crowd - because they are dressed in kimonos - but they are not Japanese -yet some of them do look like "undesirables" especially those armed with knives and bombs. It seems that the cartoonist is expressing his idea that perhaps instead of pinpointing an ethnicity of people, they should be looking at ALL people in general as to whether they are undesirables - they can be undesirable, but not of Asian descent so while America is so intent on scrutinizing the Asians, the real undesirables are just walking right in. Am I making any sense? LOL.

Kevin, as to your proposed question - I think that the cartoons being presented in the same magazine 30 years apart, shows that public opinion, even that of lawmakers, had not changed much in 30 years. They were still very anti-Asian, but perhaps there was beginning to be a realization that the Asian is not necessarily the "enemy", but the enemy could come from anywhere - the 1913 cartoon.

Kevin, I think you reversed the dates on the Venn Diagram. Since you have so graciously volunteered to do the diagram, I didn't want to mess with it. Also - I just noticed that while the caption under the "As to Japanese Exclusion" says 1913, on the cartoon itself it says March 13, 1907. ??

I'm like Cheryll - I'm having my own brain cloud with the "Both". I'll look at it again tomorrow. See you guys.

~ Jana

You guys are amazing and I am impressed with all the work you've done. I'm glad we changed to the second cartoon, there is much more in common with these two. I'm having a hard time coming up with differences that you don't already have. I did notice that there is a sense of urgency almost like they are pushing and vying for a spot in the Japanese Exclusion cartoon whereas in the Welcome to All cartoon the line is calm, like they are strolling up to the boat. Almost as if they are leaving on a vacation. The perceived amount and number of the people are different also. In both cartoons the lines continue out of the picture, but Exclusion leads you to believe there are hundreds, whereas Welcome seems to only have a handful. Perhaps this is because by the time the Exclusion one was done the shear number of people immigrating to the US scared the population not just the types of people. I thought it was interesting that in Welcome the sky over Uncle Sam is bright and sunny and the sky over the immigrants particularly the Asian one is black and gloomy and even has scary figures. I am having a very hard time finding similarities in both that you haven't already picked, how about that in both pictures the women are carrying a bundle on their head or the fact that both cartoons are on a dock. I'm unsure as to what I need to do now, please let me know how I can help ~Corey

I was wondering about how additudes differed on immigration between 1880 and 1913 not just towards "Asians" but in general I found this and thought it was interesting and gave some good statistics and insight. Immigration Facts

Kevin, Thanks so much for typing up the Venn Diagram and adding ideas to the list! You have been a huge help! Are you able to adjust it based on Jana and Corey's ideas or do you needs us to make a formal list? Jana, Thanks so much for your analysis of the "As to Japanese Exclusion" made me laugh because I was staring at the picture before thinking that the artist did a poor job of depicting the Asians since several of them seemed to not really look like Asians at all!! It went right over my head! Your analysis makes so much more sense than my pathetic conclusion that the artist couldn't draw! We'll need to adjust the Venn Diagram so it doesn't say that they are all Asians. Corey, great analysis of the sky! I didn't even notice that.

If I remember correctly from the timeline in one of the resources I put above the European Americans began to believe that the Chinese American's were basically stealing jobs from the white European Americans so they decided to stop the mass of Chinese men from coming to American. After the Chinese Exclusion Act was passed, it appears that the Japanese started to flow in take several of the jobs. The European Americans then felt threatened again and added Japanese to the exclusion list. Does that make sense? Should I add my sources into the section near the top of the page? Do they apply?

FYI: This coming snow storm is predicted to hit me pretty good with a foot or more of heavy wet snow so I am likely to loose power!! I will do my best to check on the wiki as frequently as I can - but if I disappear for a while that probably means that I have no power and no internet. It's too early for this much snow!! ~Cheryll

Great link, Corey. The decrease of European immigrants and increase of Asian immigrants indicates that migrating to America became much less appealing to the so-called "civilized" or "industrialized" nations vs the countries who were still, at that time, lagging behind. Cheryll, that was my thought as well the first time I looked at the Japanese Exclusion cartoon! LOL. I changed the statement in the list to say NOT all Asians. As for resources, I think anything that you found that concerns immigration in this time period would apply.

Since it is totally not uncommon for there to be more facts in the "Different" areas than the "Same" in a Venn Diagram, Corey, I added your observation concerning women and the packages on their heads to the link. I think we are good to go for Kevin to make the final VD?? If someone has a "revelation" it can always be added. So, I say - go for it Kevin! Agreed?

Cheryll, I hope your power stays on. We have been watching the predictions on TV. We laughed this morning and said, "Looks like Harrisburg, PA is headed for trouble. Jim Cantore is there!" The Weather Channel's Jim Cantore always seems to station himself at the "worst" area for coming weather. You are right - it is too early for all of this snow! Geez! We're supposed to be in the mid 80's all next week. :) :)

Jana, maybe I'll come visit you! I miss the 80 degree weather! I added my sources that applied in the resource section. I agree that we are almost done. We have a lot of ideas and I think we just need to finalize our Venn Diagram. Corey, I added your source too! All of you have done an awesome job with this project and I have learned so much from each one of you! The snow is coing down fast so I'm going to race to my other class and try to finish everything there too!

Have a great day! ~Cheryll

Hello everyone,

I've read your comments and added to the Venn diagram. Anything else to add or change before I upload it above?



-Kevin

P.S. There is a lot of snow in Pittsburgh, too.

Thank You Cheryll for adding my resource and Kevin for typing it all up. I think everything looks great, we have a good deal of ice and slush here (what a waste of a snow day :. Hope you all stay safe and warm. ~ Corey

I just thought of one more thing - I added it to the BOTH. I think both cartoons are meant to be the opposite of what they "mean" - basically satirical cartoons. The fact that the Welcome to All cartoon is offering Free this and that and freedoms from taxes, etc yet the picture seems to depict well-to-do people in front of the line, I think the cartoonist may be expressing his disdain with wealthy people wanting to come to the US just to get wealthier. Of course the Japanese cartoon is satirical in that they aren't Japanese. So..... whatever you think when you make the final VD. If you think Satire belongs under Both, add it - if not just forget all this! haha

Everybody stay warm! I wish I could bundle my weather and send it your way. Brrrr - makes me cold just watching on TV! LOL. ~ Jana

Good point about satire, Jana. I added it and placed the document at the top of this page!

-Kevin

Hello everyone! I looked over the Venn Diagram and just fixed a little typo and re-uploaded it. It looks great! Kevin, thanks so much for typing it all up! I'm more of a starter than a finisher for group projects so it works out great! My snow is melting quickly so things are looking up here. :) See you next week for the next group assignment. ~Cheryll

I just changed the "most look Asian" to "most do not look Asian" in the Japanese Exclusion portion of the VD - I think we agreed that they did not look Asian. I hope! Therefore, I moved the "most do not look Asian" to the BOTH category. Right?

Great job by all! Thanks for being on top of things.